Marc Andreessen, who created the original Netscape web browser before co-founding the influential Silicon Valley venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz, spent a remarkable three hours on Joe Rogan’s podcast and revealed he had a meeting with Biden’s team so “alarming” that he switched his allegiance to Trump.

Andreessen told Rogan:

“We had meetings [Biden officials] this spring that were the most alarming meetings I’ve ever been in. Where they were taking us through their plans, and it was – basically just full government – full government control – like this sort of thing, there will be a small number of large companies that will be completely regulated and controlled by the government, they told us. They said don’t even start startups – there’s just no way that they can succeed – there’s no way that we’re going to permit that to happen.”

He also described how over the last 15 years, the government had perverted the Justice Department’s anti-money laundering “Operation Choke Point.” Originally an attempt to target marijuana businesses, the Biden team weaponized the law to target industries they hate – including payday lenders, gun manufacturers, certain tech founders, and the crypto community. According to Andreessen, the government has de-banked over 30 tech startups, including crypto founders over the past four years.

Andreessen isn’t a wild-eyed, anti-government radical. Over the years he has backed Bill Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Barack Obama, and Hillary Clinton.

Rogan asked him “When you leave a meeting like that, what do you do?”

Andreessen responded: “You endorse Donald Trump.”